Spent two hours today, helping one colleague, with stand-by support from anot...

Terrence Miao - 2013-05-27 23:34:04+1000 - Updated: 2013-05-27 23:38:08+1000

Spent two hours today, helping one colleague, with stand-by support from another colleague to make an legacy Maven project run in STS (Spring Tool Suite, have to down-grade to make it compatible with Maven 2.x).

Comparing same project to setup and make it run in IntelliJ in 10 minutes, I'd like to show my respect for the moment and make a tribute to Eclipse and its dog mate STS:

Go to hell Eclipse. You make developers live hard, work hard and die hard. After all, it's too damned hard ...

Dean Budd - 2013-05-28 07:36:41+1000 - Updated: 2013-05-28 07:39:16+1000

Yeah. It's rapidly becoming like the Chrome Firefox situation.

Two products simply can't compete when one has a dedicated army working forty-hour weeks pumping out features and improvements.

And when I say "rapidly becoming", in terms of IntelliJ and Eclipse, IntelliJ started pulling out in front many years ago.

Kieran Simpson - 2013-05-28 09:55:50+1000

I also think +Dean Budd that the major place Eclipse is lagging is that they don't fix bloody bugs. I'm CC'd on a few bugs that are years old that have lots of "votes" to fix and nudda.

Whereas JetBrains fixed their autocomplete bug (for example) that a lot of people whinged about. Not as quickly as I would have liked but it got fixed.

Kieran Simpson - 2013-05-28 09:57:24+1000

+Terrence Miao Have to agree with the ease to get projects going in IntelliJ. I've been looking at a bunch of demo Android projects and it's very easy to get the projects running.

Dean Budd - 2013-05-28 11:34:56+1000 - Updated: 2013-05-28 11:35:06+1000

+Kieran Simpson Agreed. Also performance. The IJ crew regularly address the core engine and improve it resulting in faster and faster performance of the tool.
Poor old Eclipse doesn't get the same love, just piles more features dumped on top of it.

Kieran Simpson - 2013-05-28 13:15:23+1000

Of course +Dean Budd the other JetBrains products benefit from the performance lovin' as they all use the same base IntelliJ code; which only makes more customers happy.

Terrence Miao - 2013-05-28 14:17:38+1000

+Dean Budd +Kieran Simpson I love built-in index and search feature in IntelliJ

James Gemmell - 2013-05-28 16:15:31+1000

I've found the M2 integration in STS/Eclipse to be more trouble than it's worth. I use the combination of mvn and the maven-eclipse-plugin quite satisfactorily.

Kieran Simpson - 2013-05-28 16:22:36+1000

I gave up on m2e or whatever it's called a while ago (before switching from Eclipse). Do yourself a favour +James Gemmell and buy yourself a personal license next time there's a sale. One can probably write the purchase off on tax anyway ;)

Dean Budd - 2013-05-28 17:10:40+1000 - Updated: 2013-05-28 17:11:08+1000

+James Gemmell Maven integration in IJ is pretty awesome. And the IJ gang have just stepped up their Gradle work too.

Dean Budd - 2013-05-29 10:06:12+1000 - Updated: 2013-05-29 10:06:49+1000

As tradies we've got two choices about the tools we use for our trade which I've tried to summarise with this diagram... goo.gl/8iLSy

hahaha