<b>TIBCO Introduction</b><br><br>Attend a workshop presented by a TIBCO archi...

Terrence Miao - 2012-11-26 21:36:54+1100 - Updated: 2012-11-26 21:36:54+1100

TIBCO Introduction

Attend a workshop presented by a TIBCO architect today, from TIBCO history to its latest development in Enterprise scope.

Basically, from an Oracle Fusion user's perspective, TIBCO is a light version of integration solution, friendly, robust and performance well above its peers. Everything in TIBCO integration solution is developed in Java, but for TIBCO designers and developers, there is NO CODING. You just drag and drop the icons then job is done, which I reckon is very smart. So maybe that's why TIBCO people reckon they are more artists than blue collar's coders.

Now, come to the highlight of the presentation.

Question asked whether TIBCO could be more Agile.

"Well,if we could plan better", answered by this TIBCO guru, "integration work could move very quickly. However TIBCO doesn't fit in Java Domain, it's hard to have Continuous Integration and Continuous Improvement for TIBCO".

So the conclusion is "Integration is not compatible with Agile".

Just brilliant!

Kieran Simpson - 2012-11-27 08:58:00+1100

Mmm. My gut feel is that lack of CI means it's probably hard/impossible to test. What do you think +Dean Budd ?

Dean Budd - 2012-11-27 09:19:15+1100

Ohhh Jesus. First of all, everything seems light-weight compared to Fusion.
TIBCO has always been a disaster and it sounds like it still is. I would avoid at all costs.

Terrence Miao - 2012-11-27 09:27:27+1100

+Dean Budd Are you tipping Spring Intergration as one of alternatives to TIBCO though TIBCO is lighter but more expensive than big O's fusion and everything else?

How do you do your Enterprise level intergration? Just intergrate your Google address book does't count.

Kieran Simpson - 2012-11-27 09:27:39+1100 - Updated: 2012-11-27 10:14:30+1100

+Dean Budd I bet Jesus feels the same way ;)

Casper Casper - 2012-11-27 09:54:23+1100

"You just drag and drop the icons then job is done" : If this was the case, you wouldn't need professional programmers. You can only build things that way for 'solved' problems, like making a simple blog (eg wordpress), laying out a simple gui.

Terrence Miao - 2012-11-27 10:28:37+1100

+Casper Casper TIBCO people are highly skilled professionals who could demand big money, because they sit in the middle of enterprise soltuion. They charge toll or ransom on all the traffic go through intergration layer. Without them, your company is separatist organisation and fighting civil war all time.

Kieran Simpson - 2012-11-27 10:33:06+1100

I would argue +Terrence Miao that +Casper Casper is saying that complicated integration work (the kind that requires collaboration by multiple parties) doesn't bend well to a drag and drop tool. You need professional devs and a fluent integration tool. My money would be either on Apache Camel or Spring Integration as both lend themselves to Agile practises and IMO would deliver a superior business outcome.

Dean Budd - 2012-11-27 11:18:54+1100

Apache Camel or Spring Integration. Throw in Spring Batch for large-scale Data Processing.

Dean Budd - 2012-11-27 11:21:03+1100

I doesn't seem like anyone is learning from the last couple of decades! Remember CASE tools in the 80's and 90's?
Hell, even 4GL languages didn't work out!
And the circles just keep on turning, while smaller and more productive software shops keep churning out cheap, reliable and scalable software based on Open Source software...
<sigh>